Did you ever wonder how we got here, and how sometimes tiny pieces of history make up, and have shaped our lives?
Or realised how every day, all of us are making history?
Join me, Sarah Dowd, in exploring what has happened in the everyday lives of people for the better, or at least the experiences that have just make us laugh and say…
This is… History. For F***’s Sake, the podcast that explores untold stories that make a difference.
When the world seemingly shut down for almost two years, what were we doing? We were creating art, making history and crying out of human contact. We were craving our culture.
I’m your host, Sarah Dowd, and I have worked on over 200 history, heritage and arts projects in the last 20 years across the world, everywhere from the Imperial War Museum in London to exploring how we put a fleet of ships in the sky, or bringing wrecks back from Honolulu.
I was recently diagnosed with ADHD which has brought a whole new layer of thinking about creativity and how we get people – ALL PEOPLE – really engaged with our shared history and culture.
Stories. Art. Film. Books. Ships. Music. Museums. People. Joy. Experiences. Humour. Humanity.
Because it’s all History, For F***’s Sake.
Find out more at historyffs.com
How did theatre evolve from exclusive, elite entertainment into a truly public, participatory art form? Why do modern audiences crave experiences that go beyond observation to full immersion and what does that say about society, technology, and the future of storytelling?
To mark the 50th anniversary of London’s National Theatre, Sarah Dowd sits down with Fiona Porritt, Senior Creative Producer at Les Enfants Terribles, the innovative company behind spectacular immersive productions like Alice’s Adventures Underground and United Queendom. Together, they trace the arc from 18th-century riotous audiences, political spectacle, and morally contested playhouses to contemporary immersive theatre where the audience becomes part of the action.
Highlights:
00:00 From Garrick and Sheridan to mass spectacle: theatre’s transformation
01:44 Audiences as agitators: riots, protest, and who culture belongs to
03:10 The rise of immersive and participatory performance
05:28 Inspired by school panto and the opening ceremony of the Olympics
09:23 Discovering and and working with Les Enfants Terribles
13:30 Why audiences crave participation
15:46 What actually makes theatre “immersive”?
20:04 Breaking the social contract in theatre
21:30 “Tricking” new audiences into theatre and making it more accessible
24:00 Olivier Awards and fitting immersive shows into old frameworks
26:17 How Edinburgh Fringe, music halls, and found spaces paved the way
28:58 Romeo in a bombed-out library
29:22 Can immersive theatre make history feel real and accessible?
36:35 Why “serious” history isn’t always serious
46:58 Inside Pussy Riot: immersive and political storytelling
52:42 Can immersive theatre be “fun” and hard-hitting at the same time?
57:47 The paradox of spoilers in a digital age of oversharing
60:23 We’re all performers now:
62:05 Why the way we connect onstage and off, matters more than ever.
About Fiona Porritt:
Fiona is a creator of imaginative and immersive worlds. As Senior Creative Producer at Les Enfants Terribles known for its striking visual aesthetic and innovative use of props, puppetry and live music she has spent over twelve years pushing the boundaries of storytelling and audience experience. Her credits span theatre and brand experiences alike, including The House with Chicken Legs, The Trench, Inside Pussy Riot and bespoke commissions for PlayStation, Ikea and Kraken Rum.
Fiona is currently producing Die Hunnenkönigin for the Nibelungen Festival in Germany and the remount of Olivier Award-nominated Alice’s Adventures Underground.
About Sarah Dowd:
I’m Sarah Dowd – writer, speaker, heritage and arts consultant, producer, and all-around nerd – here to share the stories of our past that make us laugh, gasp, and mutter: It’s History… For F***k’s Sake.
For 25+ years I’ve created immersive, inclusive experiences that bring history alive, from rallying Second World War convoys through London to staging performances between Pearly Kings and Gen Z creatives. My work spans museums, cathedral crypts, pop-up theatres, global brands, and community projects across the UK and beyond.
As a Canadian living between the UK and France (with a late ADHD diagnosis that fuels my curiosity and creativity), I zigzag through culture, history, and big ideas, but never boring ones.
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In this episode of History for F**’s Sake*, host Sarah Dowd welcomes Graham “Gaz” Brown; musician, conductor, vocal coach, and former army bandsman, for a frank, funny, and moving conversation about how music shapes memory, and how ordinary people end up living through extraordinary times. From growing up just outside Glasgow to performing in the Gulf War, Gaz’s story is about the power of sound to steady us, change us, and connect us, both to each other and to history itself.
From Glasgow to Kenya – via the Band Room
Gaz’s life in music began at home: his dad was a tenor, his mum played organ, and singing was simply part of family life. He played cornet and trumpet at school and showed promise early on, but his path to formal music training hit a dead end when he was told he’d need Grade 8 piano to get into college. “That was never going to happen,” he laughs.
A careers advisor offered another route: the British Army. Initially unsure, Gaz soon realised this meant playing music for a living and travelling the world to do it. His first flight took him not to a holiday destination but to Kenya, aged just 18, where he performed in military bands under the East African sun. What followed were years of training, discipline, and performance in places as varied as Belize, Edinburgh, and later, the Gulf.
War, Fear, and Music as Survival
The Gulf War marked a turning point, not only in Gaz’s life but in how he saw the role of music in extreme circumstances. “I remember sitting there thinking, I’m a trumpet player. What the hell am I doing here?” he recalls. But even in the middle of air raid sirens and desert heat, music didn’t leave him. A borrowed church organ became a place to write and reflect.
His mantra (formed in those high-pressure moments) has stayed with him: “If I can survive this, I can survive anything.” It’s not a dramatic flourish, just a quiet philosophy grounded in experience.
Life After the Army
Returning to civilian life wasn’t straightforward. Military structure doesn’t always translate to the creative world, and Gaz found himself navigating a series of jobs before setting up a recruitment business focused on helping veterans find their next step. But music remained his anchor. From ska bands and jazz nights to conducting choirs in Cambridge, his musical life kept evolving. Eventually, he released Time, an album inspired by his experiences in the forces, a personal act of storytelling through sound.
Queen, Theatre, and Soundtrack Moments
Alongside the heavier moments, the episode is filled with laughter, especially as Gaz and Sarah debate musicals, revisit memories of performing together, and geek out over Queen. For Gaz, Freddie Mercury’s voice is something close to sacred: “So clean, so precise, and so full of emotion.” The band’s influence becomes a recurring thread, culminating in a legendary Bohemian Rhapsody remix that had nightclub bouncers applauding.
Why Music Still Matters
At its heart, this episode is about music’s ability to carry memory. “It puts you back in that place like nothing else can,” says Gaz. Sarah agrees: “music isn’t just a reflection of history, it’s part of how we write it.”
Whether he’s teaching, composing, or simply sharing war stories with his old music teacher, Gaz is still finding ways to connect the past with the present, one note at a time.
Listen to the full episode of History for F**’s Sake for more on Gaz’s story, and how music continues to make, and make sense of, our most defining moments. [Link]